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Posted: 03 Dec. 2005,21:50 QUOTE

Have I offended somone?

How's December looking so far?
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Posted: 03 Dec. 2005,22:52 QUOTE

Offended someone? Not as far as I know!

December is slow - the number of email enquiries I receive is down to below 100 per day (thank god!) and there are definite gaps between the phone ringing. I think it's much the same for many contractors as folk can only think of Xmas.

Enjoy the respite while it lasts - we'll all soon be rushed off our feet again.  :D


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Posted: 04 Dec. 2005,07:22 QUOTE

sorry, rms, you didn't offend -- I neglected to follow the thread!
(Yes, I'm blonde.)
Don't know off-hand what the going rate is -- but you're dead right that we're right tired of dealing with the blimming hurricanes -- and *we* were lucky this year.  I'll have a look round and ask at some of the Chrimbo bashes (we've several neighbours who've had their drives redone recently) -- I'll let you know what I hear, just for comparison sake.
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Posted: 05 Dec. 2005,13:36 QUOTE

As a manufacturer, I can see definite downturns over the last few months. From conversations at Glee, I think Stonemarket are the only ones to have really made much headway over the last 12 months and that has as much to do with introducing new products and keeping things fresh as anything else.

Most merchants I've spoken to (who are willing to tell the truth!) report downturns of 10-15% over last year.

We've managed to remain fairly level as we cover a number of bases, and have introduced new products, and our website has proved invaluable for pulling in leads from a wider area.


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Posted: 06 Dec. 2005,19:39 QUOTE

Manufacturers, importers, distributors ... they're all saying they had a fairly flat year but that has to be tempered with the fact that 2004 was a real bumper year for many.

I reckon the decorative products are going to struggle for another 12 months or so, but the specification market will remain fairly bouyant.


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Posted: 14 Jan. 2006,22:21 QUOTE

For January the level of enquiries we are currently receiving is much higher than usual. Looks like 2006 is going to be a great year! All the best to all you other hard working contractors up and down the Country!
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Posted: 16 Jan. 2006,15:39 QUOTE

2006 is looking hopeful for us too. We have had a busy January (considering we were supposed to be shut down for redevelopment) and have orders out to the end of March, and new products being launched (hopefully) March/April.

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Posted: 01 Feb. 2006,23:51 QUOTE

I feel guilty for saying we're doing OK, but then we are. Sales are about 30% up on last year, and that saw a similar increase on the year before.

How? Very hard work, a restructured sales team, gazillions on marketing, incentives to staff for doing well, and being out there in front of customers and specifiers, offering them a consistently good product, backed up by professional service. Oh, and this website, a wonderful source of interest from professionals.

Resin bonded aggregate Ronadeck Fast Grip has been a hot favourite since we launched it about 6 years ago, and our new Tree Pit Ronadeck Tree Pit system has really taken off. What seems a very specialist application can be undertaken by landscapers and builders, with training, and a professional approach.

Good luck to us all for 2006 (Chinese year of the Dog).


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Posted: 02 Feb. 2006,19:39 QUOTE

not sure what profit margin you guys are working to,but would be great if you could answer a couple of questions which may be of interest.
1.when working out your costings on a job,what profit margin do you add on at the end?
2.if your turnover is say 600k a year what profit on average would you make from that net?

my answers are:
1.25%
2.15k
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Posted: 04 Feb. 2006,09:30 QUOTE

Methinks you're in the wrong game, Bobbi!

You need a profit margin of at least 15% just to keep a business functioning and 2,150 quid profit on a 600K turnover is less than you could get in interest from the Building Society.


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Posted: 04 Feb. 2006,11:54 QUOTE

you read it wrong mr t,the net profit margin after all deductions was 15k.
which is still v.poor.the target is a net 25% margin this year,though you may be right and this is the wrong industry to acheive that in.

anyone else's thoughts?
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Posted: 04 Feb. 2006,12:17 QUOTE

Aaah! Punctuation! I thought that was 1 point 25 per cent, instead of Answer 1:- 25%

25% is "realistic". Not as much as some, but enough to make sure you keep your head above water.


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Posted: 10 Feb. 2006,00:46 QUOTE

I start off in January/ February @ circa 20% by May June i like to be earning more like 30-35% Net come November December i dont have a problem with 10% just to keep things moving

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Posted: 10 Feb. 2006,18:38 QUOTE

nice one matt,your yearly targets are pretty similair to mine,though i havent acheived mine yet!

regarding pricing any tips?mine is so basic that i'd welcome any input to improve it:

materials+
labour+
haulage/spoil+
machinery+
25%+
17.5% vat=
customer price

we're talking about contracts which average 5-7k on the year,so not sure theres much requirement to introduce much science to the calculations,but any advice welcome.
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Posted: 11 Feb. 2006,00:19 QUOTE

Alway find it siuts me to keep it as simple as possible if you have been doing this as long as i have you know exactly how long the job is going to take.  Sometimes even we take on a job we know we should'nt it may be because the customer wants a different material or has been told by some other contractor it cant be done it's then when we lose a bit of money but gain experiance and the later can be alot more valuble in the long run. it just would not be fair if we made money on every job where would the excitment be in that. One thing we never do is ask the customer for more money after all we are the pro's .

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Posted: 02 Mar. 2006,01:34 QUOTE

2006 looking good with bookings to mid May. Not bad for the time of year!
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Posted: 02 Mar. 2006,13:56 QUOTE

yeah matt,the time factor is the hardest to get right,especially when theres a lot of prep work.apart from experience,do you introduce any laying bonuses etc for the men in order to increase the daily productivity?
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Posted: 03 Mar. 2006,01:08 QUOTE

If a price is set for a given job this has to be the best way of obtaining high productivity. Just keep an eye on the quality!
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Posted: 03 Mar. 2006,01:11 QUOTE

Sounds like you don't get your hands too dirty Bobbi!
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Posted: 03 Mar. 2006,15:03 QUOTE

I operate as a Hard Landscaper in the North of Scotland, Inverness area, mainly driveways and patios, where there is a phenominal growth in building and development. Most of the large developers provide the basics but there are plenty of clients looking for upgrades. Not forgetting the individuals who are looking to improve established properties, plenty of those going about as well. On the whole we are kept constantly employed with a months lead, this winter has been kinder than expected weather wise and as such the spring rush appears to have kicked in earlier this year. Primarily I obtain most of my business through word of mouth, I have the usual portfolio of before and afters to reassure the clients, Initially I advertised in the local paper but that proved to be a waste of time - plenty people seeing the ad and requesting quotes out of curiosity (I wish I had a pound for everyone that said "I'm surprised you came, nobody usually bothers" then when they get the quotation they never even lift the phone to say No thanks). The majority of work I pick up is replacing old tarmac drives - this powersteering is a great invention, it certainly rips up the poor tar in the turning areas. Currently looking at May when quoting on new work, generally I find people are prepared to wait when they get prompt service during the enquiry/quotation stage. My main suppliers keep me informed on new people starting up, plenty of them each year but usually just last the summer months and leave a trail of distruction behind them. Like with the earlier posts getting reliable help is a problem, there's not many around that like hard work. To summarise, business is good in Inverness/Highlands - but don't all relocate - Please!

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