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Posted: 24 April 2017,11:24 QUOTE

Hi. My first post on this great forum. Its time to clean and re sand my block paving. Im looking for opinions on possible products.

I usually use kiln dried sand but find as my drive is on a slope easily washes out and im doing it every year.

Ive seen a product called dansdand ploymetric im wondering if anyone has used it? Its supposed to surpress weeds and set quite hard to prevent washoout and seed settling.

Ive used sika setting sand before but found this a bit crumbly after a while

I have considered things like resin grout but wondered whats the best way to go.

Thanks in advance
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Posted: 25 April 2017,01:55 QUOTE

Hi scfc
I have heard of products that stabilise the KDS but never used one,I am guessing you use a jetwasher to clean it?
this blows the sand out on any drive
personally I would continue with KDS as it is relatively cheap
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Posted: 25 April 2017,06:33 QUOTE

Yeah I can use a jetwash on it. Just have to remember to block the drains this time so i dont clog them with sand.

Part of the reason I was thinking of something like this dansand stuff is because when we had some indian stone on the patio, the builder used geo fix jointing compound which is similar stuff but just for larger joints. Im really impressed with it. You dont get the washout and sny problems with blown joints from cement etc

Ive tried stabalising solutions from wickes before just on kds but that was pretty poorly
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Posted: 25 April 2017,17:26 QUOTE

GeoFix??? Impressed? Oh - you said he was a builder, so not a paving professional with an opinion worth taking on board, then! :;):

They use polymerics for jointing block paving in N.America. They keep trying to cajole us Europeans (including the Dutch who invented block paving) that we, too, should be using polymerics to joint our paving, but we're not as bloody daft as they are, so we firmly, but politely, say no.

The polymerics they use a subtly different to the comedy products you mentioned, but even the best of them (which isn't particularly cheap) will NOT withstand a power washer.

The 'official' advice from the pabving industry big-wigs is that you should use a stabiliser, by which they mean a *proper* jointing sand stabiliser, not a made-to-a-budget, diluted-to-buggery-and-back, glorified wallpaper paste from a DIY shed, but even if you did splash out on a professional grade stabiliser, they do not stand up to power washing.

In my experience, and I've been effing about with sealants and stabilisers on block paving for 37 years now, the *only* method to permanently fix the jointing is to use a high quality specialist sealant for block paving.

You can go for shiny or matt, or one that you can't even see: there is a good choice out there, but it's only a*quality* sealant that will properly bind the sand and make it virtually immovable, even with a power washer.;) ;)


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Posted: 26 April 2017,20:01 QUOTE

Thanks for the reply Tony. Ive not had any problems so far with geo fix so thats all I can go off.

I take your point about the products on the market not being up to scratch

What quality jointing stabiliser would you recommend? Ive seen people mention resiblock 22 but im pretty new to all of this. I dont mind spending the money on the right product.

Am I right in thinking this would help with stain removal etc?

The only other concern I have is that a couple of people I know that have sealed their paving tell me its lethal for being slippy in the winter. Again, is this down to the quality of the sealent going on or would this be the case regardless?

My drive is very steap.

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Posted: 28 April 2017,14:29 QUOTE

Hi scfc
PM me with you address and Ill send you a sample Resiblock 22 with my compliments so you can try it yourself and make your own judgement.

Notwithstanding, 22 will have only a limited effect on preventing staining. Resiblock Superior is the only product in Europe that guarantees against oil staining (for instance), it has been on the market for nearly 25 years without a single claim. It works.

But to be candid, it is comparatively expensive and may be a bit of an over-specification, unless of course you have a car that leaks oil - 22 would be the one to go for.

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Posted: 28 April 2017,18:11 QUOTE

I would say get the oil leak fixed  :;):
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Posted: 30 April 2017,19:19 QUOTE

hi resiblock boss.

thats very decent of you ill definatly send my address. is resiblock 22 or superior suitable for clay pavers?

ive also got indian sand stone id like to seal if it would do both jobs. is this available in stores or online only?
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Posted: 02 May 2017,09:44 QUOTE

Hi Matt
You are very welcome. I have recieved your PM on this and will get one of my team to contact you directly on this.
Regards
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Posted: 09 May 2017,07:47 QUOTE

Quote (lutonlagerlout @ 28 April 2017,18:11)
I would say get the oil leak fixed :;):
LLL

With two air cooled vw's and a mk1 Tina for some of us that's easier said than done.
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